1. Ce que les medias européens ont rapporté sur le conflit oula violence de la Chine n’est pas la réalité. Regardez ce site-là, il va vous montrer « l’évolution des photos et vidéos » au CNN.
www.anti-cnn.com
Ensuite, vous pouvez savoir pourquoi nous – les chinois sont actuellement mécontents.
2. Les USA et certains pays de l’UE supportent le dalaï-lama (par le moyen de lui donner d’argent ou créer le nouveau droit) afin de bénéficier leur gouvernement. 07 avril en France, les gouvernements français ont utilisé le drapeau Tibétain sur les ports au lieu de drapeaux de République chinois. Nous étions donc très en colère.
En même temps, les patrons de carrefour et de LV donnent d’argent aux personnes qui font la violence pour l’indépendant de Tibet en Chine. C’est pourquoi que les chinois luttent contre le Carrefour.
3.Des Français sont nos amis. Ainsi, la France est le premier pays qui communiquaitavec la Chine après la Seconde Guerre Mondiale. Nous voudrons uniquement vous montrer les réalités à Tibet en Chine et lasser encore la bonne relation entre la France et la Chine.
4. Nicolas Sakozy est l'idiot, il dit n'importe quoi sur les medias. Mais il y a quand même de fonctionnaire qui comprend la situation et la réalité. Voir cette vidéo, Jean-luc Mélonchon qui est le fonctionnaire de la ville Essonne a dit son point de vue sur le télé. Je pense que celui est vraiment la réalité.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n5IflGGIas&eurl
5.Un petit résumé de l’histoire de Tibet et la Chine:
Avant le fondement de la République Chine, le Tibet est une région au régime esclave contrôlé par le dalaï-lama. La partie communisme chinoise a liberté la Chine et ainsi que le Tibet.Le dalaï-lama n’a plus son pouvoir noble et spécial. Pour lui, tous changeaient. c'est pourquoi qu’il y a eu une guerre à Tibet en 1959 et le dalaï-lama contre la Chine et voudrait regarder l’indépendant de Tibet.
Background: Recently, there are many anti-protest pageants in major cities, and also many discussion and debate sessions were hold in some Universities. Some friends felt very bad because they fail to persuade their friends. Even more persons asked for help on Internet. Therefore, hope this guidance can help you. Core Problem: For China, the core of Tibet problem is the contest of the power and benefit, the deployment of global stratagem and the stabilization of society. The essential reason that the Western countries blame China is that the relative high-speed development of China continuously restricted and limited their power, benefit and influent for globe. That is the core of the confliction is benefit, and the surface of it is the confliction of ideology (reference: the analysis of the antinomy of democracy and efficiency by Madison, one of the founder of U.S.A). However, this post-jungle rule is a hidden rule, which is not suitable for publication. Please do not use this as your argumentation. The western people who understand this will either keep silence or keep their position whatever and talk about human rights and humanism. Purpose: After understand the core problem, it should be realized that the purpose of announcement is to persuade the people around us who has been beclouded by their government through the announcement of human rights and humanism. Then, make a more comfortable atmosphere around us and influent the consensus of the society in some degree. At first, do not be so naive to try to influent and change the major review of the Western society. Even in today’s Internet age, the relative difference of the influence between general person and power owner is decreasing but still not enough for a real democracy. Shangri-La without terrorism and slavery, we plege Abstract: There are three basic points for the announcement of anti-‘Free Tibet’ and there are also three paradoxes needs you guy to avoid. The three basic points: First, Lamaism leaded by Dalai and his group is not a real religion, it is evil. There is no relation between the problem of Tibet and religion free. Dalai and his group are right the ones who against and demolish the religion free in Tibet. Dalai’s group is not qualified to deputize Tibet. Second, reveal the benefit foundation of Dalai and his group, and according this make an analysis to estimate the proportion of Tibetan who support independence firmly. For the most other Tibetans, as it is impossible to make referendum immediately to have a statistical result of their viewpoint, an analysis based on the principle of benefit can be made to give a reasonable estimation. At least, analyze the definition of Tibet people. According the Law of China and international convention, every Chinese who is a resident of Tibet will be consider as Tibet people. The concept of Dalai’s ‘Big Tibet’ and any other statement about ‘Only Tibetan is Tibet People’ are racism, and means segregation. It is not allowed in any place of this world. Three paradoxes: First, do not make statements based on history. Unification and independence (at least autonomy) are both existed in history. It is confuse others and oneself. Moreover, many countries in today’s world are independent form settlements. Even a perfect statement based on history will not able to give the necessity of unification. Second, do not try to give necessity of unification based on the development of Tibet after 1950s and possible decay after independence. It is not an acceptable argumentation when reference to the concept of ‘Far East co-prosperity sphere’. At least, do not use the friendship between Tibetan of other Chinese nations to explain anything. This kind of friendship is also suitable between countries. www.6park.com
1, Dalai and his group are cheaters and liars. Their Lamaism is fake and evil. One of the differences between science and religion is if there is any utterly authority, and one of the differences between a real religion and a fake one is that it uses an ideology system or an alive person as first authority. That is, if is there any God in the religion still alive and publicity. In any real religions all over the world, there is not alive utterly authority. That is, nobody is allowed to give oracle directly. Any believer is able to oppugn any master based on the creeds. Contemporary, any master or group must explain their mind according to the creed and then persuade their believer. Once an utterly authority who can give oracle directly appear, the religion will become fake and evil like the Middle Age or Dark Age in Europe. The religion group of Tibet continuously makes alive God through reincarnation, and then use this Alive God to fool people. Dalai Lama is the Alive God. I give him a joke that where he stand, where government is. From 1391, 13 Dalai Lamas were appointed. Today’s Dalai Lama is the 14th Dalai Lama. Here is not to deny the existence of reincarnation, but we oppugn the veracity of finding the reincarnationist. The lamas themselves are not Gods, but how are they able to find the reincarnation of God and make no mistake in more 600 years? Why is the God’s reincarnation not appearing initiatively instead being found by persons who is not god? Why does the God’s reincarnation have no deity? The whole process is not open and has no disciplinarian. It is totally decided by a closed committee which consists of high-level lama. All the things that Dalai Lama claimed to have, like the position of political leader and spirit leader, wealth, the palace, the power and believers is obtained through cheats and lies. Anyway, it does not mean that every religion is cheat. However, all the things belong to Dalia is obtained through cheats and lies. Moreover, it is absurdity to say that the believers trust him willing. Let’s come to this question: if a swindler cheat person on street should the police stop him? Do the police have rights to stop? Should the dirty money be confiscate and give back the person who has been cheated? To continue their cheat and benefit, Dalai and his group are against the freedom of religion and the rights of education of Tibetan. According to the law of religion of China, every Chinese citizen have right to choose his own religion autonomy. However, Dalia and his group restricted the Tibetan’s freedom of religion through restrict the Tibetan’s right of education. The lamas are against the general education hold by the Chinese government for the recently 50 years. Their require the government annul the general education, stop every general elementary schools and high schools and let the temple education come back. Their purpose is to becloud the Tibetan, and they hope every Tibetan kids will either be an uneducated or go the temple learn from the lama and then becomes a lama. Moreover, even the chance of person to have a temple education is very limited, because contrasted to people who only take temple education the uneducated people are easy to be fooled and ruled. They also only allow very limited people to be able to be a lama, otherwise who fend them? Therefore, Dalai and his group have no not qualified to deputize Tibet. Most of Chinese will not accept their delegacy. 2, Estimation the proportion of Tibetan who supports independence. Before 1950s, serfs system runs in Tibet. According the some materials, under the system, less than 5% people –lamas and aristocrats— possess of everything in Tibet, including land, resource, populace and even human’s life and body. Lamas and aristocrats have absolute ownership of serfs’ life and any part of their bodies. The cruel facts like use skull and whole skin which taken off from alive human as sacrificial utensils and gifts can be proved by various materials. As these 5% people, they have strong reason to support independence because they want their ‘Old good days’ come back. However, inside these 5%, Ban Chan—another Alive God like Dalai—and his group decide to support unification and be against to independence. Under the assumption that Ban Chan’s group and Dalai’s group have same size in history, plus the fact that Ban Chan’s group stay in Tibet while Dalai’s group is not during the recent 50 years, it can be estimate that Ban Chan’s group is a little bit large than Dalai’s. Therefore, the proportion of Tibetan who has strong reason and supports independence firmly is on less than 2%. Let’s come to an analysis for other Tibetan. After the foundation of P.R.China, the serfs system in Tibet was abolished. Every Tibetan has entire franchise and human rights and is allowed to have personal property. The government spends tens of billions of dollars in Tibet every year to improve people’s life and build infrastructures like school, highroad, airport and etc. Besides this aid, billions of dollars is invested into Tibet by other Chinese people and groups. Moreover, trading with other parts of china and reception tourist from other parts of china supports the major economy in Tibet, changes and improves the Tibetan’s life. After independence, Tibet will lose all these benefit. Therefore, it is able to make a reasonable conclusion that most Tibetans do not support independence. In fact, combine to the constitution of Tibet people, the firmly supporter of Tibet independence will be less on the base of 2%. 3, the definition of Tibet people The P.R.China is founded in 1949, and then starts completely administration in Tibet. It is already 50 years. At present, in Tibet, 90% of the people are Tibetans and 10% are others. According to the related law of China, every Chinese citizen who resident in Tibet should be consider as Tibet people. That is every other Chinese citizen who resident in Tibet has the exactly same rights as Tibetans for the Tibet’s issue. Contemporarily, according to the laws and convention of dominion, any other Chinese citizens beside Tibet also have their right to give opinions on Tibet’s issue. Any other statements about ‘Only Tibetan can decide Tibet’s issue’ are absurdity, are racism, obey the spirit of international pact and means segregation. It is not allowed in any place of this world. Let's come to these questions: Does a Tibetan who has a citizen of other country have right to vote on Tibet’s issue? And, who are American? Finally, based on the analysis above, if let Tibet people to vote on the Tibet’s independence, there will be only 1% people will support. Moreover, if ask all the Chinese citizens vote on Tibet’s independence, the proportion of supporters will be only 0.002%. Therefore, if without more evidences and facts, any body and any country have no reason to blame and protest China about Tibet’s issue. Frequent Q & A: 1, Q: about the suppression of 3.14 issue in Tibet. A: Dalai runs a terrorism group in Tibet. These terrorists made terrible things in Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, China on 3.14.2008. The evidence show that the terrorists killed about 10 persons, hurt hundreds of person, burned several houses and stores and attacked more than a hundred stores and institutions. They are criminals and they break the law. Therefore, the police have duty to arrest them. Some criminals resist arrest and attack the police, and then are arrested by force. That is the truth. The police of any other country will do the exactly same thing. After that, about 40 persons have been arrested. Dalai claimed that the number is above 100. I do not know how he gets this number, but it doesn't matter! The criminals killed about 10 persons, hurt hundreds of person, burned several houses and stores and attacked more than a hundred stores and institutions in only one day! So, either 40 or 100 will be a reasonable number. There is no suppression existed! 2, Q: The reason for these people use violence is just because they do not have a legitimate method to claim for independence. A: It is not allowed for anyone to apply violence to populace in any situation! It is humanitarianism protected by international pact and also an argument of all the countries in this world. Actually, there is indeed no legitimate method to claim for independence in China at present, but there is a legitimate way to require a modification of Law. If there are enough people who require independence, they will also have enough power to require a modification of the Law first. In any situation and in any place all round the world, one person will not be allowed to break the law when his behavior forbid by the law. 3, Q: Free speaking is human’s nature right, anyone can claim anything. A: Free speaking is the right which provided and restrict by law, not a nature right. Is it allowed to support Osama bin Laden and claim that president Bush should make an interlocution with Osama bin Laden? And more, free speaking also does not mean free violence. 4, Q: The statement of the definition of Tibet people is colonists’ and pirate’ logic! A: Anyway, it is not any kind of logic indeed. It is truth.
The following account was written by Sir Charles Bell, who was the British administrator for Chumbi Valley in 1904-05. At that time, Chumbi Valley was under British occupation pending payment by Tibet of an indemnity which resulted from the Younghusband Expedition of 1904. Slaves were sometimes stolen, when small children, from their parents. Or the father and mother, being too poor to support their child, would sell it to a man, who paid them _sho-ring_, "price of mother's milk," brought up the child and kept it, or sold it, as a slave. These children come mostly from south-eastern Tibet and the territories of the wild tribes who dwell between Tibet and a**am. [Bell24]
2)Was human sacrifice practiced in old Tibet? Yes.
The Chinese put a great deal of empha** on the ritual use of human body parts in Tibetan Buddhism, especially with regard to human skulls and thigh-bones. It is implied that these body parts were obtained by human sacrifice Another version of the human sacrifice charge is that Tibetans would commonly, "bury living boys beneath important buildings or images, so that they would `stand forever.'" It appears that this version is also uncollaborated by independent scholarship. Perhaps this claim has it's origin in the occasional Tibetan practice of burying bodies in the walls of houses. Human sacrifice was a part of pre-Buddhist Tibetan tradition and there are reports which suggest that it was occasionally practiced in more recent times. [Grunfeld2], [Epstein83]
3)Did China invade old Tibet? The answer is No
1001 Song dynasty, lord of liugu, saluo,paluozhi tribe were lieged lord.
1251 Yuan dynasty, tibet under administration of hubilie,
1260 sangge, Tibetan was nominated as prime minister of yuan (another name of tibet) tibet was divide into 3 administration area tubodenglu, tubodengchu, wusizang. today mongolia people is included in Chinese 56 people.
1372, Ming dynasty, emperor zhuyuanzhang commission every denomination of tibet with name of "wang", "Fawang", "guanding guoshi". the heir has to got central government's commission. in the mIng Dynasty tibet has 2 province. wusizang, duogan, administrate militery action and routines. any officers of tibet has entitled by central government and receive salary.
1406 chubugamaba living buddha dexinxieba arrived nanjing, was entitled "dabao fawang" became the hierarch of tibet.
1406 Ming dynasty entitled lord of pazugeju as "chanhuawang"
1407 Ming dynasty entitled lord of duoganlinzang as "zanshanwang"
1407 Ming dynasty entitled lord of duoganguanjue as "hujiaowang"
1413 Ming dynasty entitled lord of zhigonggaju as "Chanjiaowang"
1415 Ming dynasty entitled lord of sajia as"fujiaowang" the heir of lord has to got central government commission.
1644 Qing dynasty started, administration was more strictly and was written in the law of Qing.
1652 the 5th dala travel months and apply for the meeting emperor of Qing.
1653 Shunzhi, the emperor of Qing, hold the investiture, "the 5th. dala" was entitled as "dala lama". since then, "dala lama" is the title of the administrator of a area of tibet. and the title is still adopt in tibet. dalalama got the sign of commission, chop, golden certificate.
1713 kangxi, the emperor of Qing, hold the investiture, "the 5th. banchan" was entitled as "banchanerdeni". since then "banchanerdeni" is the title of the administrator of area of tibet.
1727 Qing dynasty sent officer stationed in tibet, represent central government.
1750 Qing Dynasty abolis***'s lord system replaced by local government, named gaxia, stipulated that officer stationed in tibet and dalai lama multi-adminstrate tibet.
1793 Qing Dynasty promulgated (meaning: the concluded constitution of tibet by emperor)
1904 british invade tibet from indian. tibet died,was killed countless. there agreement between british and tibet, the local government "Gaxia". the treaty without central government's sign is illegal. and central government refuse the treaty, no mater Qing Dynasty,GMD government and GCD government.
Tibet is part of china before USA declare of independence, Talking about invading, personally i think our great China should send troops to "USA" to help Mexican and Indians to get their land back.
Map of China printed by Rand McNally & Co. in the year 1914
4)Who is behind the Tibet Riot? The answer is CIA
The government set up in exile in India and, at least until the 1970s, received $US1.7 million a year from the CIA.
The money was to pay for guerilla operations against the Chinese, notwithstanding the DalaiLama's public stance in support of non-violence, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.
The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA's payroll from the late 1950s until 1974, reportedly receiving $US15,000 a month ($US180,000 a year).
The funds were paid to him personally, but he used all or most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities, principally to fund offices in New York and Geneva, and to lobby internationally.
Details of the government-in-exile's funding today are far from clear. Structurally, it comprises seven departments and several other special offices. There have also been charitable trusts, a publishing company, hotels in India and Nepal, and a handicrafts distribution company in the US and in Australia, all grouped under the government-in-exile's Department of Finance.
The government was involved in running 24 businesses in all, but decided in 2003 that it would withdraw from these beca**uch commercial involvement was not appropriate.
Several years ago, I asked the Dalai Lama's Department of Finance for details of its budget. In response, it claimed then to have annual revenue of about $US22 million, which it spent on various health, education, religious and cultural programs.
The biggest item was for politically related expenditure, at $US7 million. The next biggest was administration, which ran to $US4.5 million. Almost $US2 million was allocated to running the government-in-exile's overseas offices
1, have you heard of Tibet,or heard news about tibet before March 2008?Can you find Tibet on the map ?
2,Do you know why theres alot westners media using a small lable "Nepal-beating-monks-photo" with headline font size of 50000,"China CrackDown" ?
3,before you judge Xinhua,CCTV,have you heard of them make any false reports to harm other countries ?
4,Can you say," I knows more about china, more then the Chinese?"
5,Do you know the Tibet history before 195x? , Do you have any relative live in Tibet in 195x?
6,Before creat a arguement post ,can you proive any hard-eivdece to backup your theore?
7,Human Right,Can you prove that 3/14/2008, the "over 140 deads" with hard-evidence ?
8,Do you know the history of your own country ?
9,Can you say, Yes, My country never have any Human right issue,?
10,have you ever go to China ? to Tibet, before ?
alot of people come here to support Free-tibet, but they knows nothing about china.cant find it on map.
alot of people come here to talking about HUman right, talking about 1989 tiananmen,they forget their history maybe ?Invaded iraq?killing jews ?kill indian?
alot of people come here to talking about CNN.BBC better then Xinhua,CCTV,Internet blocks, but they dont have a clue about CNN,BBC,German Media Misleading,Lies about China.
alot of people come here to support Free-tibet, but they never go tibet,Do the really knows Xizang people wannt ?Do they reall know Xizang people support Separatist ?Do they like Riot ?Do they like people that burning other peoples alive ?looting ?
EDITOR'S NOTE: Set forth below is another installment in our series on Old Tibet, a land of horrific cruelty and exploitation prior to Chinese liberation. The DalaiLama, who was Tibet's teenage absolute ruler when China took back control of his feudal domain, has never apologized for the nightmarish conditions that prevailed, including a complete absence of human rights for virtually all Tibetans.
Rich and beautiful Europe experienced a period known as the "Dark Ages" when barbaric methods of torture were used and the inhuman rule that sea-owners had the right to sleep with a female serf before she married her husband was enforced . However similar practices continued to exist in old Tibet for another 400 years.
Despotic Lamas and Nobles
Before 1959, Tibet had long been a society of feudal serfdom under the despotic political- religious rule of lamas and nobles. The masses of serfs in Tibet did not even possess fundamental rights. Serf-owners principally local administrative officials nobles and upper- ranking lamas, accounted for less than 5 percent of Tibet's population but they owned all of Tibet's farmlands pastures, forests, mountains and rivers as well as most of the livestock. The serfs making up more than 90 percent of Tibet's population lived no better than the slaves in the plantations in the southern states of America. The serf-owners could sell or transfer their serfs, present them as gifts, or use them as mortgages payments for debts. They could even ex-change them,molest them or maltreat them. When two serfs got married, the husband and wife still belonged to different owners and their children were fated to be serfs from the moment they were born.
The Weight of a Dead Body
The statutory code of old Tibet stipulated that people were unequal in status by dividing people into three classes and nine ranks. In a peculiar law concerning the value of human life it was written that the lives of people belonging to the highest rank of the upper class such as a prince or leading living Buddha, were calculated to be worth the weight of the dead body in gold whilst the dives of people belonging to the lowest rank of the lower class, such as women, butchers, hunters and craftsmen were worth a straw rope.
The judicial system of old Tibet gave monasteries and serf-owners the right to judge lawsuits. The judicial system itself was characterized by its bloodcurdling system of cruel tortures: punishments issued by the courts were extremely savage and cruel and included gouging out the eyes, cutting off the ears, hands or feet; pulling out tendons; throwing the criminal into water or shutting the criminal into a wooden case lined with nails facing inwards.
These bloody historical facto were displayed in an Exhibition of Tibetan Social and Historical Relics in the Beijing Cultural Palace of Nationalities. Imagine what people thought when they saw the amputated limbs, the flayed human skins and the ghastly torture implemented.
One letter kept in file which attracted much attention. It read:
''Rab Ge:''
A Buddhist ceremony will be held here. We need meat,hearts and blood from all kind of animals 4 human heads, intestines, pure blood, turbid blood, earth from ruins, the menstrual blood of a widow, the blood of a leper, water from beneath the surface of the earth, earth raised in a whirlwind, brambles growing towards the north, excrement of both dog and man and the boots of a butcher. All these should be sent to Tsechykhang on the 27th.
Tsechykhang , the 19th"
From this letter we can imagine how many serfs would have been killed for that single ceremony. In such barbaric and brutal times. Tibet's economic and social development was out of the question. The economy in Ti- bet had been at a standstill for a long time and was even declining as was the output of grain. Crude wooden ploughs were the basic tools for agricultural production: the primitive method of herding were causing the deterioration of both the pastoralland and the breeds of livestock disease was epidemic and harmful beasts were rampant. The seas were cruelly exploited. They were forced not only into hard labour but also to bear the heavy burdens of corvee and tax. Living in poverty and starvation, they were struggling for existence on the brink of death all year round. In the 1950s, there were more than 4,000 beggars in the city of Lhasa, out of a opulation of only 37,000. The rate was even higher in Shigatse, the second largest city in Tibet. Because Of the high frequency of uncontrolled epidemics, the average life-span of a Tibetan was only 35.5 years.
3.安定内在隐患。明确设定国界。（欧各国除少数国家外都是单名族国家。没什么种族纠纷。就是在多民族国家如美英也宣传和谐社会，同化少数民族。（melting pot, cultural integration)控制舆论压倒分裂分子。）（其实没有他国支持，想分裂都难。像印第安人分出去没经济支援肯定退回到400年前的生活去，谁愿意。而且他们都被分散到各个reservation去了，别想闹事。）
It was the letter written by Victor Hugo. Victor's letter now is also known as "Le sac du palais d'été", "The sack of the summer palace" in English.
I found the original version in French, and its translation in English.
Originale en francais
Vous me demandez mon avis, monsieur, sur l'expédition de Chine. Vous trouvez cette expédition honorable et belle, et vous êtes assez bon pour attacher quelque prix à mon sentiment ; selon vous, l'expédition de Chine, faite sous le double pavillon de la reine Victoria et de l'empereur Napoléon, est une gloire à partager entre la France et l'Angleterre, et vous désirez savoir quelle est la quantité d'approbation que je crois pouvoir donner à cette victoire anglaise et française. Puisque vous voulez connaître mon avis, le voici : Il y avait, dans un coin du monde, une merveille du monde : cette merveille s'appelait le palais d'Été. L'art a deux principes, l'idée, qui produit l'art européen, et la Chimère, qui produit l'art oriental. Le palais d'Été était à l'art chimérique ce que le Parthénon est à l'art idéal. Tout ce que peut enfanter l'imagination d'un peuple presque extrahumain était là. Ce n'était pas, comme le Parthénon, une œuvre une et unique ; c'était une sorte d'énorme modèle de la chimère, si la chimère peut avoir un modèle. Imaginez on ne sait quelle construction inexprimable, quelque chose comme un édifice lunaire, et vous aurez le palais d'Été. Bâtissez un songe avec du marbre, du jade, du bronze et de la porcelaine, charpentez-le en bois de cèdre, couvrez-le de pierreries, drapez-le de soie, faites-le ici sanctuaire, là harem, là citadelle, mettez-y des dieux, mettez-y des monstres, vernissez-le, émaillez-le, dorez-le, fardez-le, faites construire par des architectes qui soient des poètes les mille et un rêves des mille et une nuits, ajoutez des jardins, des bassins, des jaillissements d'eau et d'écume, des cygnes, des ibis, des paons, supposez en un mot une sorte d'éblouissante caverne de la fantaisie humaine ayant une figure de temple et de palais, c'était là ce monument. Il avait fallu, pour le créer, le lent travail des générations. Cet édifice, qui avait l'énormité d'une ville, avait été bâti par les siècles, pour qui ? pour les peuples. Car ce que fait le temps appartient à l'homme. Les artistes, les poètes, les philosophes, connaissaient le palais d'Été ; Voltaire en parle. On disait : le Parthénon en Grèce, les pyramides en Égypte, le Colisée à Rome, Notre-Dame à Paris, le palais d'Été en Orient. Si on ne le voyait pas, on le rêvait. C'était une sorte d'effrayant chef-d'œuvre inconnu entrevu au loin dans on ne sait quel crépuscule, comme une silhouette de la civilisation d'Asie sur l'horizon de la civilisation d'Europe.
Cette merveille a disparu. Un jour, deux bandits sont entrés dans le palais d'Été. L'un a pillé, l'autre a incendié. La victoire peut être une voleuse, à ce qu'il paraît. Une dévastation en grand du palais d'Été s'est faite de compte à demi entre les deux vainqueurs. On voit mêlé à tout cela le nom d'Elgin, qui a la propriété fatale de rappeler le Parthénon. Ce qu'on avait fait au Parthénon, on l'a fait au palais d'Été, plus complètement et mieux, de manière à ne rien laisser. Tous les trésors de toutes nos cathédrales réunies n'égaleraient pas ce formidable et splendide musée de l'Orient. Il n'y avait pas seulement là des chefs-d'œuvre d'art, il y avait des entassements d'orfèvrerie. Grand exploit, bonne aubaine. L'un des deux vainqueurs a empli ses poches, ce que voyant, l'autre a empli ses coffres ; et l'on est revenu en Europe, bras dessus, bras dessous, en riant. Telle est l'histoire des deux bandits.
Nous Européens, nous sommes les civilisés, et pour nous les Chinois sont les barbares. Voilà ce que la civilisation a fait à la barbarie.
Devant l'histoire, l'un des deux bandits s'appellera la France, l'autre s'appellera l'Angleterre. Mais je proteste, et je vous remercie de m'en donner l'occasion ! les crimes de ceux qui mènent ne sont pas la faute de ceux qui sont menés ; les gouvernements sont quelquefois des bandits, les peuples jamais.
L'Empire français a empoché la moitié de cette victoire et il étale aujourd'hui, avec une sorte de naïveté de propriétaire, le splendide bric-à-brac du palais d'Été. J'espère qu'un jour viendra où la France, délivrée et nettoyée, renverra ce butin à la Chine spoliée.
En attendant, il y a un vol et deux voleurs. Je le constate.
Telle est, monsieur, la quantité d'approbation que je donne à l'expédition de Chine.
Victor Hugo, lettre au capitaine Butler Hauteville-House, 25 novembre 1861
Tranlation in English
To Captain Butler
Hauteville House,
25 November, 1861
You ask my opinion, Sir, about the China expedition. You consider this expedition to be honourable and glorious, and you have the kindness to attach some consideration to my feelings; according to you, the China expedition, carried out jointly under the flags of Queen Victoria and the Emperor Napoleon, is a glory to be shared between France and England, and you wish to know how much approval I feel I can give to this English and French victory.
Since you wish to know my opinion, here it is:
There was, in a corner of the world, a wonder of the world; this wonder was called the Summer Palace. Art has two principles, the Idea, which produces European art, and the Chimera, which produces oriental art. The Summer Palace was to chimerical art what the Parthenon is to ideal art. All that can be begotten of the imagination of an almost extra-human people was there. It was not a single, unique work like the Parthenon. It was a kind of enormous model of the chimera, if the chimera can have a model. Imagine some inexpressible construction, something like a lunar building, and you will have the Summer Palace. Build a dream with marble, jade, bronze and porcelain, frame it with cedar wood, cover it with precious stones, drape it with silk, make it here a sanctuary, there a harem, elsewhere a citadel, put gods there, and monsters, varnish it, enamel it, gild it, paint it, have architects who are poets build the thousand and one dreams of the thousand and one nights, add gardens, basins, gushing water and foam, swans, ibis, peacocks, suppose in a word a sort of dazzling cavern of human fantasy with the face of a temple and palace, such was this building. The slow work of generations had been necessary to create it. This edifice, as enormous as a city, had been built by the centuries, for whom? For the peoples. For the work of time belongs to man. Artists, poets and philosophers knew the Summer Palace; Voltaire talks of it. People spoke of the Parthenon in Greece, the pyramids in Egypt, the Coliseum in Rome, Notre-Dame in Paris, the Summer Palace in the Orient. If people did not see it they imagined it. It was a kind of tremendous unknown masterpiece, glimpsed from the distance in a kind of twilight, like a silhouette of the civilization of Asia on the horizon of the civilization of Europe.
This wonder has disappeared.
One day two bandits entered the Summer Palace. One plundered, the other burned. Victory can be a thieving woman, or so it seems. The devastation of the Summer Palace was accomplished by the two victors acting jointly. Mixed up in all this is the name of Elgin, which inevitably calls to mind the Parthenon. What was done to the Parthenon was done to the Summer Palace, more thoroughly and better, so that nothing of it should be left. All the treasures of all our cathedrals put together could not equal this formidable and splendid museum of the Orient. It contained not only masterpieces of art Art-Dealer-Larry-Salander-Trials Apr-2008 , but masses of jewelry. What a great exploit, what a windfall! One of the two victors filled his pockets; when the other saw this he filled his coffers. And back they came to Europe, arm in arm, laughing away. Such is the story of the two bandits.
We Europeans are the civilized ones, and for us the Chinese are the barbarians. This is what civilization has done to barbarism.
Before history, one of the two bandits will be called France; the other will be called England. But I protest, and I thank you for giving me the opportunity! the crimes of those who lead are not the fault of those who are led; Governments are sometimes bandits, peoples never.
The French empire has pocketed half of this victory, and today with a kind of proprietorial naivety it displays the splendid bric-a-brac of the Summer Palace. I hope that a day will come when France, delivered and cleansed, will return this booty to despoiled China.
Meanwhile, there is a theft and two thieves.
I take note.
This, Sir, is how much approval I give to the China expedition.
Je ne suis pas communiste chinois. Je ne le serai jamais. Mais je ne suis pas d’accord avec les manifestations en faveur du boycott des jeux olympiques. Je ne suis pas d’accord avec l’opération de Robert Ménard contre les jeux olympiques de Pékin. Je ne suis pas d’accord avec la réécriture de l’histoire de la Chine à laquelle toute cette opération donne lieu. Je ne partage pas du tout l’enthousiasme béat pour le Dalaï lama ni pour le régime qu’il incarne. Pour moi, le boycott des jeux est une agression injustifiée et insultante contre le peuple chinois. Si l’on voulait mettre en cause le régime de Pékin il fallait le faire au moment du choix de Pékin pour les jeux. Il ne fallait pas permettre à la Chine d’être candidate. Il fallait le dire en Chine. Ce qui se fait est une insulte gratuite et injustifiée contre les millions de chinois qui ont voulu et préparent activement les jeux. Pour moi il flotte un relent nauséabond de racisme sur cette marmitte !
UN PRETEXTE
Si un boycott devait être organisé, dans une logique agressive conséquente, ce n’est pas celui du sport qui est un moment d’ouverture et de fraternisation. Pourquoi pas plutôt celui des affaires et de la finance ? Naturellement aucun des activistes mondains actuels ne le propose ni n’entreprend quoi que ce soit dans ce sens. Si l’on devait vraiment se facher avec le gouvernement chinois, pourquoi le minimum de ce qui se fait dans les relations normales entre les nations ne se fait-il pas à cette occasion ? Le président de la République chinoise (combien de protestataires se soucient de savoir comment il s’appelle ?) a-t-il été approché ? Lui a -t-on demandé quelque chose ? Quoi ? Qu’a-t-il répondu ? Le premier ministre (combien se sont préoccupés de connaitre son nom ?) a-t-il été interpellé ? L’ambassadeur de Chine en France a-t-il été reçu et a-t-on eu un échange avec lui ? Qui s’en soucie ? Avec une morgue ressemblant à du racisme, on proteste contre un gouvernement dont on ne cite pas le nom des dirigeants, et dont on fait comme s’il n’existait pas. Pourquoi sinon parce qu’on pense par devers soi qu’il n’en est pas vraiment un. La superbe occidentale nie jusqu’au nom des gouvernants qui dirigent un peuple de un milliard quatre cent millions de personnes que l’on croit assez veules pour être maîtrisé par une simple police politique ! D’une façon générale je ressens, en voyant tout cela, l’écho du mépris des colons qui ont imposé en leur temps les armes à la main l’obligation pour les chinois de faire le commerce de l’opium ! Si la volonté est d’affronter le régime politique de Pékin, aucun des moyens employés n’est de nature à modifier quoi que ce soit d’autre que l’opinion occidentale déjà totalement formatée sur le sujet. Donc les évènements du Tibet sont un prétexte. Un prétexte entièrement construit à l’usage d’un public conditionné par la répétition d’images qui visent à créé de l’évidence davantage que de la réflexion. Exemple : seule l’enquête « d’arrêt sur image » rapporte que les « évènements du Tibet » ont commencé par un pogrom de commerçants chinois par des « tibétains ». Dans quel pays au monde de tels évènements restent-ils sans suite répressive ? La vie d’un commerçant chinois a-t-elle moins de valeur que celle du manifestant « tibétain » qui l’assassine à coups de bâton dans la rue ? Bien de l’amitié pour les tibétains n’est qu’une variante nauséabonde du racisme contre les chinois. Elle se nourrit de tous les fantasmes que l’ignorance favorise. Que la répression ait été lourde est peut-être avéré. Comment l’apprécier ? Les seuls chiffres rabachés sont ceux du « gouvernement tibétain en exil ». Pourtant le gouvernement chinois, si j’ai bien entendu, annonce lui-même un nombre de blessés et de morts qui permet de comprendre qu’il y a eu une situation grave et sérieuse que les autorités admettent. Dans n’importe quelles circonstances ont essaierait de comparer les informations. On essaierait de comprendre l’enchainement des faits. Sinon autant dire que le gouvernement français de l’époque a ordonné de pousser deux jeunes dans un transformateur électrique à Clichy Sous Bois au motif qu’il avait alors une politique de main dure face aux banlieues. Personne n’oserait avancer une bêtise aussi infâme. Dans les émeutes urbaines américaines la répression a aussi la main lourde. Tout cela n’excuse rien. Mais cela permet de mettre des évènements en relation de comparaison.
UN PERSONNAGE SUSPECT
J’exprime les plus nettes réserves à propos de l’action politique de monsieur Robert Ménard, principal organisateur des manifestations anti chinoises. A présent, à propos du Tibet et des jeux olympiques, on ne voit que Robert Ménard. Il parle, parait il, au nom de « Reporters sans frontière ». Cette association est réduite à la personne de Robert Ménard. Bien des anciens membres du conseil d’administration pourraient en dire long au sujet des conceptions démocratiques de monsieur Ménard dans sa propre association. Quand je me suis trouvé sur le plateau de radio à France Culture où l’on m’interrogeait sur le sujet du Tibet et des jeux olympiques, messieurs Marc Kravetz et Alexandre Adler sont restés silencieux quand j’en suis venu au rôle de monsieur Ménard. Ils ne peuvent être soupçonnés de chercher à me complaire… Hors micro, les deux exprimaient des réserves marquées sur les méthodes du personnage de Robert Ménard. Maxime Vivas a établi une analyse documentée extrêmement inquiétante sur ce personnage et ses sources de financements. Quoiqu’il en soit, il semble qu’il remplace aussi dorénavant les syndicats de journalistes, l’association internationale des droits de l’homme, Amnesty et ainsi de suite. Parfois même il remplace le Dalaï lama. Robert Menard milite pour le boycott des jeux ce que ne fait pas le Dalaï lama. Celui-ci dit au contraire que le peuple chinois mérite les jeux. Robert Ménard est un défenseur des droits de l’homme à géométrie variable. A-t-il mené une seule action, même ultra symbolique, quand les Etats unis d’Amérique ont légalisé la torture ? A-t-il mené une seule action pour que les détenus de Guantanamo soient assistés d’avocat ? Robert Menard a un comportement qui soulève des questions sérieuses au sujet des motivations de son action.
LE REGIME THEOCRATIQUE EST INDEFENDABLE
A propos du Tibet. Le Tibet est chinois depuis le quatorzième siècle. Lhassa était sous autorité chinoise puis mandchoue avant que Besançon ou Dôle soient sous l’autorité des rois de France. Parler « d’invasion » en 1959 pour qualifier un évènement à l’intérieur de la révolution chinoise est aberrant. Dit-on que la France a « envahi » la Vendée quand les armées de notre République y sont entrées contre les insurgés royalistes du cru ? Le Dalaï Lama et les autres seigneurs tibétains ont accepté tout ce que la Chine communiste leur proposait et offrait, comme par exemple le poste de vice président de l’assemblée populaire que « sa sainteté » a occupé sans rechigner. Cela jusqu’au jour de 1956 où le régime communiste a décidé d’abolir le servage au Tibet et régions limitrophes. Dans une négation des traditions, que j’approuve entièrement, les communistes ont abrogé les codes qui classaient la population en trois catégories et neuf classes dont le prix de la vie était précisé, codes qui donnaient aux propriétaires de serfs et d’esclaves le droit de vie, de mort et de tortures sur eux. On n’évoque pas le satut des femmes sous ce régime là. Mais il est possible de se renseigner si l’on a le coeur bien accroché. L’autorité communiste a mis fin aux luttes violentes entre chefs locaux du prétendue paradis de la non violence ainsi qu’aux divers châtiments sanglants que les moines infligeaient à ceux qui contrevenaient aux règles religieuses dont ils étaient les gardiens. La version tibétaine de la Charria a pris fin avec les communistes. La révolte de 1959 fut préparée, armée, entretenue et financée par les USA dans le cadre de la guerre froide. Voila ce qu’il en est des traditions charmantes du régime du Dalaï Lama avant les communistes et de l’horrible « invasion » qui y a mis fin. Depuis, la scolarisation des enfants du Tibet concerne 81% d’entre eux là où il n’y en avait que 2% au temps bénis des traditions. Et l’espérance de vie dans l’enfer chinois contemporain prolonge la vie des esclaves de cette vallée de larmes de 35, 5 à 67 ans. En foi de quoi l’anéantissement des tibétain se manifeste par le doublement de la population tibétaine depuis 1959 faisant passer celle-ci de un million à deux millions et demi. Pour tout cela, la situation mérite mieux, davantage de circonspection, plus de respect pour les chinois que les clichés ridicules que colportent des gens qui ne voudraient ni pour eux, ni pour leur compagne ni pour leurs enfants d’un régime aussi lamentable que celui du roi des moines bouddhistes du Tibet. A l’heure actuelle je n’éprouve aucune sympathie pour « le gouvernement en exil du Tibet » dont sa sainteté est le décideur ultime sur pratiquement toutes les questions, où siège un nombre de membres de sa famille qu’il est tout à fait inhabituel de trouver dans un gouvernement, même en exil, sans parler de leur présence aux postes clefs de la finance et des affaires de cet exil. Je respecte le droit de sa sainteté de croire ce qu’elle veut et à ses partisans de même. Mais je m’accorde le droit d’être en désaccord total avec l’idée de leur régime théocratique. Je suis également hostile à l’embrigadement d’enfants dans les monastères. Je suis opposé à l’existence du servage. Je suis laïque partout et pour tous et donc totalement opposé à l’autorité politique des religieux, même de ceux que l’album "Tintin au Tibet" a rendu attendrissants et qui ne l’ont pourtant jamais été. Je désapprouve aussi les prises de position du "roi des moines" contre l’avortement et les homosexuels. Même non violentes et entourées de sourires assez séducteurs, ses déclarations sur ces deux sujets sont à mes yeux aussi archaïques que son projet politique théocratique. Je n’ai jamais soutenu l’Ayatollah Khomeiny, même quand j’étais contre le Shah d’Iran. Je ne soutiens pas davantage ni n’encourage le Dalaï Lama, ni dans sa religion qui ne me concerne pas, ni dans ses prétentions politiques que je désapprouve ni dans ses tentatives cecessionistes que je condamne. Je demande: pourquoi pour exercer sa religion et la diriger le Dalaï Lama aurait-il besoin d’un Etat ? Un Etat qui pour être constitué demanderait d’amputer la Chine du quart de sa surface! Son magistère moral et religieux actuel souffre-t-il de n’être assis sur aucune royauté ?
FAUTEUR DE GUERRE
En ce qui concerne le droit international et la géopolitique, le dossier du Tibet tel que présenté par ses partisans est un facteur de violences, de guerres et de déstabilisation aussi considérable que celui des Balkans. Quel genre de Tibet est défendu ? Le "grand Tibet" incluant des régions comme le Yunnan et le Sichuan, sur les territoires des anciens seigneurs de la terre où sont organisés des troubles en même temps qu’à Lhassa ? Bien sur, aucun de ceux qui s’agitent en ce moment ne se préoccupe de savoir de quoi il retourne à ce propos. Rien n’indique mieux le paternalisme néo colonial ni le racisme sous jacent à l’enthousiasme pro tibétain que l’indifférence à ces questions qui mettent en cause la vie de millions de personnes et des siècles d’histoire et de culture chinoise. J’ai lu que les athlètes français porteraient un maillot avec une déclaration un peu passe partout qui est présentée comme une protestation politique . Je sais très bien que l’inscription "pour un monde meilleur" ne mange pas plus de pain là bas qu’ici. Mais elle sera certainement vécue par les chinois du commun comme un acte injurieux si son motif pro dalai lama est connu. Peut-être est-il cependant aussi un peu hors limite des règles du sport international. Souvenons nous que la ligue européenne de natation a exclu des championnats d’europe de natation le nageur serbe Milorad Cavic parce qu’il portait lors des remises de médailles un tee-shirt sur lequel était écrit: "le Kosovo est serbe". Cela fera-t-il jurisprudence? Les champions français qui porteront un slogan annoncé comme politique seront-ils interdits de jeux ? Bien sûr que non ! Puisque le but c’est justement que le Tibet soit au chinois ce que le Kosovo a été aux serbes. Mais comme cela n’a rien de comparable, à part la volonté de dépeçage de l’ennemi et la mise en scène médiatique, il est fort probable que cela finisse à la confusion des agresseurs. Je le souhaite. Je suis un ami de la Chine. Et je sais que l’intéret de mon pays et ses valeurs ne sont pas du côté où l’on voudrait les entrainer.
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, but masses of jewelry. What a great exploit, what a windfall! One of the two victors filled his pockets; when the other saw this he filled his coffers. And back they came to Europe, arm in arm, laughing away. Such is the story of the two bandits.
